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Old 07-19-2002, 11:13 AM   #41
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ok number 1: we have no evidence that it was dooku that hired jango to kill padme, it could have been just the neimodians acting separately.
That was one of the stipulations for the Niemoidians joining Dooku's Sepratist movement... "I will not sign your treaty until I have Senator Amidala's head on my desk!" Also, Jango's obviously Dooku's lacky; he was hired by "a man called Tyrannus" to be the template for a clone army (obviously, he means Darth Tyrannus, who is Dooku) and he's acting as Dooku's bodyguard on Geonosis. That's all the evidence I need.

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2: who said that dooku knows exactly where sidious is? i dont think he keeps a standard residence.
If Dooku didn't know how to find Sidious, then how was it that he could go directly to Sidious after fleeing Geonosis?

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(no its not EU, its the novelization of the movie)
Only the scripts and movies are not EU.

Once again, your arguments are unconvincing and do not stand up to the facts. Dooku=bad guy.



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Old 07-19-2002, 01:11 PM   #42
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Jedi_Monk has the point. Come on, In your title said "Dooku WAS a good guy" and yes Count Dooku is really a good guy. But in Episode II, he is no more Count Dooku, his identity is now Darth Tyranus, the dark jedi. The identity of Count Dooku is no more.

Darth Vader is a bad guy in my perspective. During the day he killed Palpy, he was no more DV, but he is Ani.

Anyway, Darth Talliusc, are u Darth Tyranus? What I really means is, are u Christopher Lee? So, u are tyring to protect yourself in Eps II HAH!


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Old 07-19-2002, 11:48 PM   #43
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Just to point out something from earlier:

Palpatine did, in fact, know of Ani's existance in EP1, quite earlier than they actually met, I believe...perhaps even before he sent Maul, supposedly, to his death. There are many ways he could have done this; either intercepting a transmission (Qui-Gon's to Obiwan with Ani's midiclorian [sp?] count...I haven't watched EP1 in a while but I believe Maul was already on Tatooine), or, considering he has a great knack for the future-telling thing, he might have learned that way.

Anyone else remember Palpatine turning to Ani at the end-celebration thing and saying something about "watching your career VERY closely"?

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Also, Dooku was bad . Red Saber, fought with a good guy, tried to kill Obi and Ani, was cocky, got the smack laid down on him by a midget, had to push a pillar towards the midgets friends to escape.


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Old 07-20-2002, 04:30 PM   #44
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"We will be watching your career in great interest" Palpy.

Tyranus is evil.


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Old 07-21-2002, 06:11 AM   #45
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I think he is a bad guy because he's played by mister C lee

I mean he's an actor who almost only play badguy's (or at least is known for it)


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Old 07-23-2002, 12:22 AM   #46
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2: who said that dooku knows exactly where sidious is? i dont think he keeps a standard residence.
Darth Sidious was in Corrocsant all the way during TPM. Just inform the Jedi Order and then it will be settle the future war. Tyranus, bad guy. Dooku god guy.


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Old 07-23-2002, 11:49 AM   #47
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Come on guys, even during the battle between Dooku and Yoda, Yoda said "The Dark Side I sense in you."

Darth Tyranus betrayed and murdered Count Dooku.

If you think he is a good guy then you will never become a true Jedi because he has decieved you and you have shown how easily persuaded to the dark side you are prone. Yes.


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Old 07-23-2002, 04:16 PM   #48
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ok number 1: we have no evidence that it was dooku that hired jango to kill padme, it could have been just the neimodians acting separately.
Okay, we don't have PROOF that the sun will rise tomorrow either, now have we??
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Old 07-24-2002, 02:44 AM   #49
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Yeah, agree with Darth Lando.But the poster is no Jedi, he is a Sith/Dark Jedi.

Well deceived.


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Old 07-24-2002, 03:38 AM   #50
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I heard Dooku did alot of charity work. He also sang on the USA for Africa Album.
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Old 07-24-2002, 05:14 AM   #51
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Did you say Dooku? So, Dooku indeed a good guy, but still he was murdered by Tyranus. Sadly....


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Old 07-24-2002, 07:51 AM   #52
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But the Jedi didn't realize Dooku's secret. Behind a veneer of elegant charisma and well-tabled political arguments, Dooku had been corrupted by the power of the dark side. After his departure from the Jedi order, Dooku was seduced to the dark side by Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith. By Sith tradition, Dooku adopted the name Darth Tyranus and added deceit and treachery to his already formidable array of weapons.
this from the star wars website...he's EVIL!!!! Its all part of palps plan. He's testing which is better....the driods or the clones. Its all part of a big set-up for the jedi


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Old 07-25-2002, 04:36 PM   #53
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ok here is the bio of Count Dooku right from SW.com ! Read it and say what you will he is EVIL ! Nuf said

http://www.starwars.com/databank/cha...oku/index.html


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Old 07-26-2002, 03:30 AM   #54
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Darth Talliusc has stop debating.


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Old 05-26-2013, 10:31 PM   #55
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hmmmm

Dooku was good... if you dont believe it your all sheep... I dont care what web site has
A profile of him stating he was evil.. there are so many reasons why I believe he was good
But the bottom line is what he fought for in episode 2 is the same thing they faught for in episode 3 4 5 and 6... if you pay attention he even tells obiwan that senator palpatine is the dark sith lord, ppl can say but dooku works for him as darth tyranuss but the way I see it is dooku cut his losses after the clone army destroyed his separatist droid army.. in episode 3 padama is talking to anakin stateing that she feels there on the wrong side, anakin responds with your sounding like a sepratist.. count dooku would have had quagon fighting along side him if he were still alive.. dooku lost his "secret" droid army he was going to use to take out the evil sith lord, so he rejoined palpatine, he had no choice, dooku had his own agenda till his army was wiped out, dooku was barley considered a sith lord but a dark jedi, there is a difference he played both sides so he could gain an advantage against palpatine. Read the opening credits of 3, there are heros on both sides, refering to dooku as a hero. Hes clearly a rouge jedi... not a bad guy...
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Old 05-26-2013, 10:57 PM   #56
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[QUOTEobi;706605]This has been said millions of times before by myself and many others before, but:


Dooku is bad. He went to Kamino 10 years ago under the name of Sifo-Dias and orderd clones under the order of Palpatine/Sidious(they are the same person). He was officialy Palpy's apprentice of evil. Palpy told Dooku to start a seperatists movement so that he could use his clones and show his power. Then, Palpy thought no one would dare stand up.

Dooku=Bad guy[/QUOTE]


Ok so what you said about dooku ordering the clones is wrong.. darth plaguies ordered the clones, darth plaguies is master sifo-dias and he ordered the clones then was killed in his sleep by palpatine and he took over overseeing the clone army... just sayin..

And ol GL definitely had all 9 scripts all wrote when he made 4 back in the 70s.. and even tho Disney bought the rights GL is making sure the next 3 movies are as he intended.. so expect to see the emporor because he is mosy definitely a clone in 6, how does a clone have sith powers you say lol the emporor clearly says he can create life through midiclorins.
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Old 05-27-2013, 06:29 AM   #57
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Old 05-27-2013, 03:28 PM   #58
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