Force powers you would like to see/wish were in Jedi Outcast.

Caster · 08-18-2002, 08:36 PM

I would've lliked to have seen Force Blind in the game. Especially in multiplayer and with maps like Nar Shaddaa and Warring Factions ^_^

cromster · 08-18-2002, 09:20 PM

that would be cool!!! and "force bind" just bind them and brush them under the rug

Guise · 08-18-2002, 11:16 PM

i would have liked to see force seeing in single player

*RpTheHotrod* · 08-18-2002, 11:29 PM

I'd like force seeing to have something new. Perhaps showing the target's current health/force power, or perhaps when someone uses the scope on the disruptor, it draws a line to where they are aiming...or some X where they are aiming.

Think about it

Force Seeing:
See trip mines better (whoopie...you already see them fine)

See people through walls (Most games are so frantic and deathmatch, there's really no use to know when someones coming, because they are always everywhere)

Detect mind trick (It's only good use, but there arn't alot of people who use mind trick. You can also use push/pull to see where enemies are that are using mind trick, because that air pocket animation shows up on their hands, and also you can watch your crosshair, if it moves by itself, there's a mind tricker in front of you not too far away)

Vs all the other powers, mind trick is the weakest power.

They do need more force powers, because everything is cookie cutter now. 80% of player use push/pull, jump, and either absorb or grip.

Force Safe Fall - slows falling rate

Force Bind - if 3 Force Bind users form up a small group somewhere, they can bind their force powers together and create a "blue fireball" that hurdles towards where they are aiming, and explodes like a huge repeater secondary round. pretty much, a massive disruption of the force. (Would require teamwork of 3)

I'd like to see force push and pull having the ability to pull weapons that have dropped on the ground. (as in, when someone dies, their weapon drops, and you could pull it to you)

I'd like there to be some martial artist moves. Trick is, the one who chooses the martial artitist isn't allowed to use any weapons expect the saber and the blaster. Also, there is a 5 second delay between doing the same move again...so no kick kick kick kick kick.

Animation:

Access to the butterfly and cartwheel animations

Moves:
Foward kick- your basic karata kick (dmg)

Flip kick- Jump up, and pivet to your left and swing your foot across their face (dmg, plus knocks them sideways)

Body Flip- if you get knocked down, and someone is about to jump towards you (with saber or just trying to kick), you can lift your legs up to their chest, grab their shoulders, and flip them over your head to the ground behind you.

Dragon Flight- A short range lunging kick

Something more than the cookie cutter saber fight...add some interesting variety!

(If you think it's too "powerful", dont forget, they can't use ANYThING but a saber and a pistol...I'd say one repeater would totally overule all of this by power)

Rocketman · 08-18-2002, 11:34 PM

i woulda liked to have force push or pull activate all switches and doors from any distance.

GE Predator · 08-19-2002, 12:08 AM

Force Throw. Cept this time it'll also make Jan throw her panties at you.

*RpTheHotrod* · 08-19-2002, 02:16 AM

Hehe, run out of ammo for your rifle? No problem! Throw it at them or use it as a bat.

SeraphimII · 08-19-2002, 02:20 AM

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Originally posted by GE Predator
Force Throw. Cept this time it'll also make Jan throw her panties at you.

I think thats mindtrick not throw

**Redwing** · 08-19-2002, 04:17 AM

The Force powers from AotC; Reflect and Chain Lightning ^_^

Revan Bakr' · 08-19-2002, 05:47 PM

"force freeze"- A dark power that renders the user immobile and lets the user get away

-[MotU]-Lyger|=- · 08-19-2002, 06:26 PM

how about the ability to chop off their limbs and they dont get them back after respawning

or like DBZ style attacks where you shoot pojectiles and you have to reflect them back at people and get into projectile locks. cool idea no?

Beefotron X · 08-20-2002, 01:13 AM

They should have had live dismembering, where cutting off someone's limbs doesn't necessarily kill them.

Each limb you are missing, reduces your max HP by 20.

If you have...
one arm: The larger guns are unusable
no arms: No weapons
one leg: You get off your back at half speed, maximum speed is walking speed, jump height and kick damage are halved.
no legs: The most movement you can do is roll at .75 x walking speed.

Accompanying this would be a regeneration item that gave you all your limbs back, but doesn't recover health.

Revan Bakr' · 08-20-2002, 01:17 AM

I agree Lyger. Destruction is a poor,forgotten power. With some animating, a "destruction" could be made, where instead of the fireball a ki ball is thrown, and if the other user has that power he may be able to knock it away. Or, a force dark rage, where the user charges up and fires a powerful beam, instead of that annoying health sapping power we have currently.

Elliot334 · 08-20-2002, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by Revan Bakr'
I agree Lyger. Destruction is a poor,forgotten power. With some animating, a "destruction" could be made, where instead of the fireball a ki ball is thrown, and if the other user has that power he may be able to knock it away. Or, a force dark rage, where the user charges up and fires a powerful beam, instead of that annoying health sapping power we have currently.

Yea, force destruction sort of sucked in JK1, but it looked really cool in the JK1 cut-scenes, if only it was like that in-game.

Guardian Omega · 08-20-2002, 01:35 AM

Destruction is the only power I missed..............

aZn-Dragon · 08-20-2002, 03:17 AM

I actually liked deadly sight that was pretty funny when i 1st started playing jk in mp.

Kstar__2 · 08-20-2002, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by aZn-Dragon
I actually liked deadly sight that was pretty funny when i 1st started playing jk in mp.

it was

txa1265 · 08-20-2002, 01:26 PM

This has gotten interesting ... more than the early post-release threads of a similar vein ...

I am almost entirely SP, so that is my basis.

I was hoping for more Force Seeing / Sense. I find it hard to believe that at later levels I'd not be able to stand on one side of a door and be able to know whether I should power off my saber or say 'I have a bad feeling about this ..." I envisioned a level 1 where your Force Power bar would pulse when you sensed someone within say 20 feet or so, only in the open, and perhaps on the other side of a door. Level 2 would extend your range, allow your sense to expand through walls, and have a better feel for numbers. At level 3, you could see through walls.

The dark side power suggestions I find interesting as well ...

Mike

Caster · 08-20-2002, 11:26 PM

Force seeing would've been great in single player. I'm pretty sure most Jedis are well prepared when they enter a room =P

*Kurgan* · 08-21-2002, 04:19 AM

Yeah, all the powers we lost from JK1 and MotS.

Blinding

The "other" version of Force Seeing (that actually dispels darkness, makes a noise to give away your position, etc)

Force Farsight (not only to leave your body, but to have a legit way to stop yourself from taking falling damage if you're quick with the button)

Force Throw (I guess we have to add objects into the levels to have this one work right)

Force Projection (except make it so that the "decoy" it creates does random actions instead of just punching or I guess Stun Batoning in this case)

Force Pull (actually pull objects towards you, like in Single Player or JK1)

Force Destruction (the flaming orange beachball of doom!!!)

Force Deadly Sight (toasty!)

Man, those were fun... there'd be balancing issues sure, but that could be done.

Now you're right, if we're talking SP here, then no balance is needed.

I'd love to see Force Speed as fast as it was in JK1 (you could accomplish this in part by speeding up the movement in general) with the ability to speed over mines, again like in JK1. Those mines rocked too.

And I say if your arms are both cut off, you have to use up force mana to levitate your gun/saber in front of you. ; )

Or maybe you could have an engineer class, who can build bionic limbs!

Darth Damage · 08-21-2002, 05:13 AM

Dark side, Force Destroy - it would be a force move that emmitts this fire type ball that kills everything in its path kinda like a mini nuke (not too star wars though)

Kevin Katarn · 08-21-2002, 12:02 PM

i wanna be able to do what Obi-wan does in AoTC! I was really surprised when he blocked Tyranus's lightning with his saber! Why can't we do that? And what about in ESB when Vader puts his hand up and blocks Han's laser bolts! And why cant we have a MP lvl where theres a bunch of R2 D2's shootings sabers in the air and if you catch one you can use it!!!! (ok maybe not...)

Caster · 08-21-2002, 01:59 PM

I think that Vader blocking Solo's shot was actually because of his black armour.

I mean... it's all shiny and stuff!

jedi qin-jon · 08-21-2002, 02:14 PM

i think they should have force disable so your enemy cant fight for likr 18 or 8 seconds he can run though and you can only use it once.

Kevin Katarn · 08-21-2002, 05:43 PM

actually in I,Jedi Luke says he could do it because he absorbed the energy with the Force

FalloutGod · 08-21-2002, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Redwing
The Force powers from AotC; Reflect and Chain Lightning ^_^

That would be cool but it should make it so they dont take damage either so when that happens to em they dont get back stabed =)

Also i think it would be cool to have force power that makes a force field like the force field thingy that u can pick up (sorry cant remember the name)
LVL 1: 10 seconds, strong
LVL 2: 20 Seconds Stronger
LVL 3: 30 Seconds Very Strong! As In More than 4 DFA's to it.

DS ChAoS · 08-21-2002, 08:07 PM

A force absorb would be sorta cool, but something that absorbed all gun and saber energy but required all force and 25 health points to use. Something that would make you think twice before using.

lonepadawan · 08-22-2002, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Beefotron X
They should have had live dismembering, where cutting off someone's limbs doesn't necessarily kill them.

Each limb you are missing, reduces your max HP by 20.

If you have...
one arm: The larger guns are unusable
no arms: No weapons
one leg: You get off your back at half speed, maximum speed is walking speed, jump height and kick damage are halved.
no legs: The most movement you can do is roll at .75 x walking speed.

Accompanying this would be a regeneration item that gave you all your limbs back, but doesn't recover health.

Much monty python mayhem...

DS ChAoS · 08-22-2002, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by lonepadawan

Much monty python mayhem...

"Now stand aside worty advarsary"
"Tis but a scratch"
"A Scratch?!? Your arm's off!"
"No it isn't"
"Well what's that then"
"I've had worse"
"You lie!"
"Come on ya pansy"

Darth Damage · 08-23-2002, 05:19 PM

great movie!!!!!!!!

JerAir · 08-26-2002, 06:55 PM

Force future foreseen!

FatalStrike · 08-26-2002, 07:20 PM

Force trip- they run and its like an invisible foot sticking out infront of them. This must be followed by some funny fall on you face and curse animation

Force smack- Flag carrier talking ****? No problem target him from far away and deliver a force bitch slap. This would be the pimp side of the force.

Force confusion- Makes your target dizzy for 5 seconds, in which time his screen blurs and is filled with pure acid like visions.

Force shadow- Have your self appear two steps ahead and slightly left of where you really are. This is accomplished by joining a server where you have a super high ping, but I'd like to do this on purpose to piss off the snipers.

Force Noob Wedgy (sp?)- if a player fails to reach a certain score in a certain block of time he is then open to being hung by his undies on strategically placed hooks in all maps.

Rad Blackrose · 08-26-2002, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by DS ChAoS

"Now stand aside worty advarsary"
"Tis but a scratch"
"A Scratch?!? Your arm's off!"
"No it isn't"
"Well what's that then"
"I've had worse"
"You lie!"
"Come on ya pansy"

"Look at you silly bastard, you have no arms left!"
"Yes I have!"
"LOOK!"
"Tis a flesh wound"

Xabien · 08-27-2002, 11:14 AM

I would have liked to see a new force power called "kick n00b go bang". You use it when somebody runs at you with their saber off and just kicks you all the time. Then all you do is point at them and a green ball of energy flys from your hand up their nose and they explode.

SupaflyII · 08-27-2002, 01:26 PM

Maybe just add on to the old. Grip, have it so you can grip certain body parts. Not just the neck. Like gripping their right ankle having them fly upside down then throwing them to have them land on their face.

Reborn´s Bane · 08-29-2002, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Caster
I think that Vader blocking Solo's shot was actually because of his black armour.

I mean... it's all shiny and stuff!

Well, according to the books of the expanded universe it´s a jedi power that let´s the user absorb and channel pure energy through his body, and even counterattack.

It would very nice to have that power on JkII. Imagine absorbing blaster bolts and then throwing boosted lightnings or something else, that I wanna see!!!!!!!

JaseP · 09-02-2002, 11:07 PM

I'd like to see force levitate, where you could levitate objects the same way that you can force levitate people who are in the ForceGrip.

People who were strong in the force could levitate ships, but others could levitate boxes, etc. and stack them and stuff.

Working in tandem, people could force levitate objects for teammates to use to get to unreachable areas.

Reborn´s Bane · 09-03-2002, 09:13 AM

It sounds good, but it lacks aggressiveness!

*C'jais* · 09-03-2002, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by Reborn´s Bane
It sounds good, but it lacks aggressiveness!

Does it have to be agrresive?

Reborn´s Bane · 09-03-2002, 01:41 PM

not really, but in my opinion, the more interesting force powers are somehow linked with aggression